Candidate for Sheriff Discusses Leadership

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Welcome to the Jack Hopkins Show podcast , where stories about the power of focus and resilience are revealed by the people who live those stories and now the host of the Jack Hopkins Show podcast , jack Hopkins .

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Hello and welcome to the Jack Hopkins Show podcast . I'm your host , Jack Hopkins . Welcome to the Jack Hopkins Show podcast . I'm your host , Jack Hopkins . Today's guest is Tyler Kamp , a candidate for sheriff of Maricopa County in Arizona . Tyler is a fifth generation resident of Maricopa County . He's not a guy who just flew in there , you know , six months ago , nine months ago , and decided , hey , I'm going to run for sheriff in Arizona . He's been there for a while .

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He earned a bachelor's of science in administration of justice from Arizona State University and then Tyler embarked on a distinguished career with the Phoenix Police Department , where he would serve in leadership roles as shift commander , gang enforcement sergeant and homicide detective . He led countless short and long-term organized crime investigations involving wiretaps and undercover operations . His involvement in Operation Guardian , a collaborative project with local and federal agencies and Arizona State University , highlights his innovative approach to gang intervention . Internationally , he served as the Director of Investigations and Law Enforcement Development for a non-government organization and relocated his family to West Africa . Now this experience is a testament to his global perspective and the ability to address complex issues like cross-border human trafficking and forced slavery . He also established the first ever cross-border human trafficking task force at the Katoka International Airport in West Africa .

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Tyler's commitment to community service extends beyond his professional roles . His involvement with Samaritan's Purse as part of their disaster assistance response team reflects his readiness to aid those in need . Assistance response team reflects his readiness to aid those in need . His volunteer work , including building cribs and desks for orphanages in Bolivia and training police in Costa Rica , panama , brazil , paraguay and Bulgaria , speak volumes about his humanitarian spirit . For the past year , tyler has served as Director of Executive Protection for Thrive Service Group , inc . A not-for-profit organization that strives to eradicate poverty through social innovation and profitable businesses , teaching them the hands-on skills , teaching them the hands-on skills . Tyler has been married to his wonderful wife , alana , for 25 years and they share four beautiful children , and he is also involved in his local church as an elder , sunday school teacher and missions board member .

Jack Hopkins 3:19

You will find , as you watch and or listen to this episode with Tyler Kamp , he's one of the most genuine , caring human beings that I've encountered for some time .

Jack Hopkins 3:36

I think it will impact you through the screen , through the speakers , in whatever format you experience this , that this guy is genuine , he's legit , and when you hear of his plan when he's elected sheriff of Maricopa County , I think you will find it as uplifting and hopeful as you could hope to . So let's get right into this episode with Tyler Kamp , candidate for sheriff of Maricopa County , arizona . Okay , tyler , so one thing I've got to ask you about , because I'm sure many people are concerned with this issue , and it's been a national issue . Concerned with this issue , and it's been a national issue , even though he's not been there for a while , sheriff Joe Arpaio . Now he really put Arizona on the map , and not in a way that most people in Arizona probably ever wanted to be on the map . Are there any similarities between your opponent and how they conduct business , or kind of some of the principles and thought processes that they operate from , and former Sheriff Joe Arpaio ?

Tyler Kamp 5:02

Yes , I believe so , just based on his actions . And one thing that I've learned about Joe Arpaio is he's well known around the world . I just spoke to somebody a couple weeks ago who was in Thailand riding in the back of a they were called Tuk Tuks it's like a taxi in Thailand and the Tuk Tuk driver , when he found out my friend was from Maricopa County , he said oh , that's Sheriff Joe . So he is well-known across the world , across the country , and it's usually not in the best light . And so when I started to consider running for sheriff and I looked at Jerry Sheridan and who he was and who he is , he shows a lot of similarities of Arpaio and he was actually head of operations for the entire sheriff's office when Arpaio was sheriff those last several years .

Jack Hopkins 5:54

So it's fair to say , then , that in many respects , he was brought up and trained by Joe .

Tyler Kamp 6:00

Arpaio Absolutely , joe Arpaio , absolutely , as the CEO or the sheriff , when you hire or promote your number two in command . That's somebody that shares the same beliefs as you , that's somebody that you can trust . You know who's going to be loyal , and so I would have to imagine that's the reason why Jerry Sheridan was chosen for that position .

Jack Hopkins 6:24

Right , you know law enforcement . I've had several family members who have been in law enforcement over the years . I know law enforcement is not without frustration political type frustration . And I know there are some bad people out there . Right , let's make no bones about it . Across the spectrum , there are dangerous people out there . How important is it not to become jaded as a law enforcement officer and to be able to keep your focus on the reasons you started and the people you serve ?

Tyler Kamp 7:08

I think your leadership has a lot to do with that , and I've realized even with myself early on as a young cop you're overexposed to a certain population , and if you're not used to that , you need to be able to put that into context , and so that's why it's so important to be balanced , have a balanced life , be grounded to surround yourself with people with potentially opposing views as yourself , people that come from different backgrounds .

Jack Hopkins 7:32

If you're only surrounded by the same like-minded people , you live within an echo chamber , and that's dangerous , and I think that really is what we saw at the sheriff's office at the leadership level when our pilot was running the show and jerry was his number two right , tyler , one of the things that stood out to me and and it it may be one of those things that is kind of an afterthought to many people , but it really jumped out at me as statement about your character and your values , just just because one it's rare in today's society , but particularly rare in law enforcement , and that is , I notice , you've been married for 25 years Now . I don't know the statistics , but I'm assuming that in the field of law enforcement , in the field of law enforcement , it's a much lower than even in the general population . How have you balanced your work and home life in such a way that you've been able to do that ?

Tyler Kamp 8:41

I have to give a lot of credit to my wife .

Tyler Kamp 8:42

She's been my supporter , my foundation , for our entire marriage and also we share the same faith in God and that's been instrumental in our marriage communication .

Tyler Kamp 8:52

And , like I just stated previously , your life has to be balanced and so if your only thing in life is law enforcement or working for the police department , the sheriff's department , that's dangerous . So you have to have friends outside of work . I was taught that early in the academy and I've tried to stick with that as best I can . Of course , you can have good friends and colleagues that you work with , naturally , but here's the kicker when you retire , you realize who your friends are . So a lot of people that you may have been friends with on the department , uh , yeah , they're , they're your friends , but they may not be with you necessarily once you retire , and that's also why it's important once you leave the job , you still have that foundation of of friendship and and your spouse as well , uh and and again , I give a lot of credit to my wife , uh , for being there for me and me and for sticking with me through all these years .

Jack Hopkins 9:46

Right , and you mentioned your faith . I think that that's probably something . What I find is that , across many different religions , the faith of the family is kind of a cornerstone . A home base is kind of a cornerstone . A home base , a place that you are always able to return in terms of values , principles , things that guide your life , ideas and concepts that guide your life . And when people don't have that and look , I know there are people out there who aren't particularly religious or follow a particular faith , who still have a good may be I see that they've had that in common and it's been a rock-steady place for them . So that's interesting , that those two coincide with you and for you . What are the , let's say , top two or three things that , as sheriff , two or three things that , as sheriff , you would like to bring to Maricopa County in terms of changes ? Maybe things that are currently going on that you don't think are good and that you might change , or things that you just implement ?

Tyler Kamp 11:20

Yeah , I think the central issue right now are these court orders that are providing oversight over the sheriff's office and , if you're not familiar with that , when Arpaio was sheriff and Jerry Sheridan was his number two , they were issued a court order because of a federal lawsuit of discrimination . So they were conducting unconstitutional roundups of people of color and there were traffic stops being made , and it was because of the policies set out by the leadership at the Sheriffs' Office and in order to comply with those court orders . Since 2013 , it has cost the taxpayers $350 million and that number will continue to grow until we comply with the court orders and graduate from them . So that's going to be one of my biggest priorities is fully comp , comply with the court orders and graduate from them . So that's going to be one of my biggest priorities is fully complying with the court order so we can graduate from it .

Tyler Kamp 12:11

Because the other issue is , in order to comply with the court order , we had to pull resources , or the sheriff's office had to pull resources from the jails and the streets to comply with it , and those are resources that could be utilized to keep our streets safe and keep our inmates and employees safe inside the jails .

Law Enforcement Leadership, Budgeting, Partnerships

Tyler Kamp 12:30

Staffing is a major concern . Right now , the sheriff's office is approximately 1,000 employees understaffed Wow . So you can imagine the challenges and difficulties of providing the best customer service possible in our jails and on the streets when you're that many employees and our staff and so go ahead .

Jack Hopkins 12:52

How important . You mentioned the financial end of things , and we usually only hear about budgets and things like that . You know when there's an issue , when there's a problem . How important is it in law enforcement to be on top of that all the time and to be making decisions in accordance with what the budget dictates or allows , instead of being so solution focused that you forget all about ?

Tyler Kamp 13:27

the budget . Yeah , it's definitely a balance and we have to be good stewards with the finances we have . But it's also important . See , the board of supervisors are the ones that provide oversight of the budget for the sheriff's office , and it's imperative that you have good relationships with the board of supervisors . You have to have a good relationship with the court monitor that has issued its court order that provides oversight for the sheriff's office . The only way you can move the needle forward , you can get things done , is based on those good relationships , and there's a part of you that has to be a bit pragmatic . We can't always do everything that we want . We have to prioritize things because we do live in the real world with real dollars and cents , and we have to spin those wisely .

Jack Hopkins 14:17

Yes , you know , towards the end at least , and this is when I became aware of Joe Arpaio . And this is when I became aware of Joe Arpaio . I had heard of him before , but it was in that last period of his career that I was really aware of him . How big of an issue is it ?

Tyler Kamp 14:44

when somebody is aligned with Donald Trump or wins favor from Donald Trump . It's very dangerous and I've taken a stance from day one , similar to Sheriff Pinzone I will not endorse political candidates , I will not endorse political measures , because I am a true believer that public safety needs to be above politics . We cannot engage in partisan politics . It's dangerous , it's divisive , especially in this day and age . It it's divisive , especially in this day and age . It's very divisive and at times violent , and we've seen that play out .

Jack Hopkins 15:12

So I will ask you did you have a good feeling or a not so good feeling when you saw that the Fraternal Order of Police , the largest police union in the United States , had endorsed Donald Trump ? Now , from your previous answer , you think you should stay out of politics , but what was your fear about what that communicated to the public at large ?

Tyler Kamp 15:36

Well , I also understand unions have a different role in the sheriff , and so I want to get into what unions' responsibilities are , what their goals are . I'm not part of the national FOP and I'm focused on a sheriff as an elected official here in Maricopa County and especially here , because what we saw 10 years ago we had a sheriff and leadership that was very divisive and we have come way too far to go back at this point .

Jack Hopkins 16:09

I think it's safe to say that you would not endorse Donald Trump . You would realize that's not a message that you want to even be part of your sphere . You want to focus on the job of the department .

Tyler Kamp 16:25

Absolutely , and it's because in this day and age , when somebody endorses a particular candidate , you potentially lose the trust of half the population , and we just cannot afford to do that . In public safety . We need the trust of everyone and from day one , my message has been we have to ensure justice for everyone , regardless of who you are , and I don't want anybody to second guess that based upon my personal convictions or my personal beliefs segment of politics .

Jack Hopkins 16:52

I think oftentimes conservatives tend to think that Democrats are of the idea that there's not an immigration problem , there's not an immigration challenge , and I find that to be about as far from the truth as you can get . I think most Democrats running for office recognize there are challenges with immigration , challenges that need to be addressed , but they need to be addressed the right way and until such time that they have , at the end of the day , you are dealing with human beings , and so that you treat them like human beings and not under the framework or the heading that a Donald Trump , for example , some of the ways that he has framed the immigrants in this country . Do you think that can contribute ? If one is not careful in how they speak about the people in their community , that that itself can lead to a bias or different treatment of these people when they are encountered ?

Tyler Kamp 18:25

Dr David Morgan . No , absolutely , works do matter . How we treat people does matter , and so it's just like with our children . If I tell my son , you're lazy , you're lazy , and I tell him that over and over again , guess what ? He's probably going to be lazy , right , because they continue to put that as mine . So it does matter how we treat people , and you're right . Here's the misconception .

Tyler Kamp 18:46

As I've traveled the county , I've spoken to groups on both sides of the aisle , I've spoken people in the middle , and we really do have more in common than we have , uh , differences . We really and I've seen it firsthand and we can be tough on crime , uphold the rule of law and compassionate . We're allowed to do that , and I know that because that's why I've raised my kids . I hold my kids accountable , I discipline my kids . Why ? Because I love them . I want them to be better . So when we look at ensuring justice for everybody , we have to hold people accountable . We have to . My whole career at the phoenix police department was built upon going after the most violent people in our city , the toughest criminals in our city . Once they're , I hope they don't come back . So then it's my job as sheriff running the jails to do everything within my power to restore them , to give them hope , so that they don't return to jail , and that's where we can partner with some of these nonprofit groups to provide education , career development opportunities and a workforce pipeline .

Jack Hopkins 19:52

And that's I like that . You said we can partner with these non-profit groups . How important is partnering with the resources available when you're tackling the issues that you will face ?

Tyler Kamp 20:07

It's extremely important , especially because of our staffing shortages . For one , we need all the help we can get . I believe we are all collectively responsible for public safety . It's not just the sheriff's office or the police departments or the FBI . We all live in this community . We have to work together , and I use the word partner . That's significant because we're on the same team . I'm also a believer in uh preventative justice . I think most of us agree of in preventative health care . Sure , right , it's , it's , it's more cost effective and it's the best approach to health care . Why are we not investing in preventative justice ? On the same , on the same note , and so if we can partner with uh non-profit groups and faith-based groups to help with mental illness or drug addictions , that might prevent crime in the future , so why would we not do that ?

Jack Hopkins 21:00

And Tyler , I just heard you say something that I don't often hear from political candidates . You said why aren't we partnering ? Why aren't we doing this ?

Jack Hopkins 21:14

I like it when a candidate for office is asking questions asking good questions because far too often people are so rigid in their approach or their idea for what the solution is that when they take office and viable partners or other resources that can help come into the picture , they're so fixated on the rigid way they've thought about what they're going to do that there's no wiggle room , and the nice thing about asking questions is that you are inviting other good answers and then you're able to take that , put it out on the table and see how that all fits together so that you might benefit from some of these other people . So I just wanted to point that out for somebody listening or watching who might not have caught that You're asking questions and I think that's critical . So if you were to talk about your biggest concern with your opponent in how they would lead and I say not your biggest concern personally per se , just your biggest concern for Maricopa County what would be top of mind

Prioritizing Public Safety and Community Concerns

Jack Hopkins 22:33

for you ?

Tyler Kamp 22:33

I'm concerned that he will take us straight back to the days of Joe Arpaio , and if you've lived here long enough , you remember the MCSOs and the headlines in the news just about every single day . There were lawsuits being filed . They were confrontational with the media , with different groups in the public . There were Hispanic groups filed . They were confrontational with the media , with different groups in the public . There were Hispanic groups throughout the county that were in battle with the sheriff's office . The sheriff should not be the story . If the sheriff's office is doing the things they're supposed to do , we're not hearing about the sheriff , and I like how Sheriff Gonzon put it several years on , several years ago he wants to be the boring sheriff that the county needs , and there's a lot of truth to that . If we're doing our job , we're protecting the people . We're not hearing about the sheriff , and that's really my goal come November and when I lead the sheriff's office forward .

Jack Hopkins 23:26

That's good , and I want to point out to people watching or listening that the reason I bring up anyway , the reason I bring up Joe Arpaio as often as I do , is because your opponent worked with Joe Arpaio of leadership for long . If we are not incredibly mindful , we start to adopt some of the traits and the ideas and practices of that leadership and I know that towards the end of Joe Arpaio's career , I had the sense that he was no longer acting as sheriff , he was acting as celebrity . Acting as sheriff , he was acting as celebrity , joe Arpaio , meaning his decisions weren't community-based , they were what decisions are going to draw the most attention and elevate my status as a celebrity ? So to hear you say , my job , as I see it , is to not be at the forefront of media stories . I should be in the background quietly doing my job . It shouldn't be about me . What are the first , say , six months when you take office ? What kind of sequential or hierarchy in terms of things of importance will you tackle first ?

Tyler Kamp 24:55

Well , I think on day one I'll sit down with my leadership team , make sure we're on the same page . I want to sit down with the court monitors that are providing the oversight for those court orders , because it's so important that we graduate from those . And I want to make sure we have a good foundational relationship , a good working relationship . That way we can compromise and find solutions together . In the last two years , there have been a spike in overdose deaths inside our jails , and so I will assemble a task force to investigate that . It's a diverse task force to investigate the root of the problem why this is occurring and some ways we can fix that , because that's important . This is occurring and some ways we can fix that , because that's important . I also want to hire a director of staffing who's solely focused on recruiting , retention and the morale of our employees . That is such a major issue , and I want somebody who that's all they're going to look at is how we can recruit and retain employees better .

Tyler Kamp 25:46

And then , as discussed before or maybe we haven't discussed it , but fentanyl the fentanyl epidemic has taken over our county . It's exploded across the country and I think , with my background , especially doing long-term , complex investigations into these criminal organized groups . I want to make sure we are a part of a task force or create a task force that's targeting these criminal organizations and dismantling them , but it's going to take . It's not just the enforcement aspect . We also have to bring awareness to the community and educate the community on the dangers of fentanyl and what to do when you encounter fentanyl .

Jack Hopkins 26:26

And that's one thing I want to point out for people as well . And that's one thing I want to point out for people as well . I don't want anyone to misconstrue you staying in the background as you not aggressively approaching your job . I want to highlight for people that you worked on investigating organized crime . I haven't asked you , but I would assume at times that included cartels , very dangerous people . You've been in the thick of things . You've been in very dangerous situations . You've dealt with people who would rather kill you than look at you . Am I correct in saying you understand when you need to be aggressive in your approach towards pursuing solutions to challenges ? You understand the urgency of some of these matters ? I just want to make sure for people they understand that you are able to delineate when it comes to those two things .

Tyler Kamp 27:33

Absolutely and one size does not fit all right . So , and I spent over half my career well over half my career dedicated to investigating organized crime groups , that's organized retail theft , that's drug trafficking organizations , that's criminal street gangs . And when I say one size doesn't fit all , there's different approaches to that enforcement and I've led investigations , I've written wiretap investigations Very , very complex . You don't get a wiretap investigation for people that are abusing drugs on Grand Avenue right . The wiretap investigations are there to infiltrate these organized groups so we can take down that middle infrastructure or the groups that are bringing it across the border . And what I have found , investigating criminal street gangs and this is a rule of thumb that I have If you have a gang that's comprised of maybe 100 gang members , typically about 10 percent of that 100 people are what I call trigger pullers .

Tyler Kamp 28:34

They're the ones most likely to do a drive-by shooting , to shoot somebody , to pull a robbery at a store . Those are the 10% of the ones we need to focus on , because that's where we make the most impact based on the limited resources we have . So I think it's very important to be to keep things into context and to be specific about who we target and who we want to invest our resources into .

Jack Hopkins 29:02

Right . So when you are out in the community talking to people who live there , people who are US citizens , people who have a right to be doing and living wherever they are , what are their top concerns ? I would assume they mirror some of the top things you're wanting to address , but when you hear it from them , how do they talk about it ?

Tyler Kamp 29:33

What I hear the most , and I've traveled the entire county and it's interesting . Our county is so diverse and large . I speak to folks in the farm areas , in the urban areas , in the foothills , and every area has slightly different concerns , but also the same . Staffing is such a major issue . When they call 911 , they want a deputy to be able to respond in a timely manner , because when they have an emergency that's why we live in this country is because we have those types of conveniences and protection and I'm proud of the fact that we live in a country like that .

Tyler Kamp 30:10

Fentanyl is also a major issue , just because fentanyl affects just about everybody in this county . We probably all know somebody who has overdosed on fentanyl or a struggle with fentanyl , and it affects all walks of life . It doesn't matter your gender , race , it doesn't matter , it affects everybody , and so that's why it's such a big deal . When I speak to business owners , they're very concerned about organized retail theft , these groups that are very organized and they're targeting these stores . We have to be able to stop that , and that affects everybody , because if we can't stop these criminals that are robbing our stores and committing thefts , it raises the cost for everybody and so it does affect everybody , but those are the things I hear the most when I speak to folks around the county .

Jack Hopkins 30:55

So I think that highlights for me the importance of the focus on law enforcement , because clearly there are other elections that are going to be taking place on the same day that people are casting a ballot for sheriff and yet , when it comes down to the concerns you are telling me that people have , the front line person is going to be in law enforcement . Right , we know that things don't move quickly as you go on up the ladder when you get to the legislative end of things . We need that and it's critical , and it also takes a fair amount of time for those changes to be implemented . So , on your end , you are able to start immediately working with the guidelines and laws you already have and just change the approach in terms of how you're implementing those things , and you don't have to wait . Would that be a fair assessment ?

Tyler Kamp 32:06

Absolutely . It's your local races that truly affect your day-to-day lives , and that's why people need to be invested and interested in these local elections . I'll tell you a quick story , jack . When I lived in West Africa with my wife and kids , I worked for the largest anti-slavery organization in the world fighting human trafficking . This was a few years ago , and , living abroad , you see firsthand what can happen when you don't have basic public safety . So in West Africa we lived in Ghana , and there's tons of money being poured into Ghana from countries the United States and other countries , germany , china , from all over the world . If you don't have public safety , those funds , those resources , are not getting to your schools . They're not receiving appropriate health care I was there during the COVID pandemic they were not receiving vaccinations , or if they did , they couldn't store them . They just didn't have the public safety there to provide security for those items . And so , at the very foundation , you have to have public safety in order for a community to thrive .

Jack Hopkins 33:20

And , from my end of things , to hear you tell that story for me and I'm not in Arizona , so unfortunately I can't vote in your race . You'd have my vote if I was able to . But what that tells me about you because this is in your private life , correct that you were serving in this capacity that tells me you are probably not going to approach law enforcement by color . Your methods and practices aren't going to change with the color or race of the individual you are dealing with . And I say that because people who are rigid in their thinking and behaving in that kind of way typically won't be in Africa doing that type of work . Am I right in that there is a connection between those two things ? That your work there influences how you think about law enforcement and law enforcement also influences how you think about challenges in other parts of the world .

Tyler Kamp 34:37

Absolutely , and there are a couple of things I learned living in Africa was I developed a deeper sense of empathy as well . Empathy is a noun , but it's an action . It's the ability to understand another person's perspective point of view . Until you actually live in another country , you don't really know what life is like there . Right when we decided to move back to the United States from Africa , we had three guards that lived with us full time on our property . We lived in a dangerous area and we had guards with us full time on our property . We lived in a dangerous area and we had guards .

Tyler Kamp 35:12

One of the hardest parts of moving back was leaving them behind , because I knew there would be no opportunities for these three young men to find work . There just wouldn't be an opportunity . We were their source of income and so it just broke my heart , it broke my wife's heart , to leave them behind knowing that there's no work there for them . I still stay in contact with them to this day and try to help them out best I can , but there really just isn't those opportunities . That's something we take for granted here in the United States is the opportunities for people , because we typically live in a place that's safe and we can find an education and move forward .

Jack Hopkins 35:47

And I think that's an important asset of yours . I know I've traveled a good amount of the world . I've been to other countries , I've experienced how they live , I've seen how things differ from the opportunities that we have here , and while I wouldn't say it's impossible for someone who hasn't traveled to ever understand it any other way , I'd say it's very unlikely . So I don't know anything about your opponent's travel or experiences in other countries , but I do know about yours . And now we know some of the thinking .

Jack Hopkins 36:32

And , as you said , empathy is a behavior . It's something that you do . You know empathy as a concept . There might be a feeling associated with it , but if all you do is just have that feeling but take no action based from that feeling , then I don't know how important it is in the grand scheme of things . So I like to hear that you have this concept that , look , I can have the thought , I can have the feeling , but ultimately I have to do something . And that tells me a lot about what your approach in life as a whole is , and that would include law enforcement . That , look , it's not enough as a candidate , for me to know the issues . It's not enough as a candidate for me to be able to feel what the people in my county are feeling . I have to actually do something if I'm going to make a difference . That sounds like a pretty powerful asset to me , tyler .

Tyler Kamp 37:43

Absolutely . Thank you for pointing that out , Jack . And yes , if I don't have a deep sense of empathy , how do I know the best way to run the organization ? If I don't have a deep sense of empathy , how do I know how to provide the best public safety possible for the county or how to run the jails ? I think if you saw Joe Arpaio 20 , 25 years ago , we saw a different Joe Arpaio than we did the last several years . It's because it became more about Joe Arpaio and less about the people . And I want to make sure that I'm the people sheriff . I want to make sure I put the community's needs before the needs of a sheriff . That's really my job is to be a servant .

Jack Hopkins 38:31

I worked in health care for a number of years and I liken it to . Every now and then you would run into a nurse who has been in the profession for decades and you can clearly see they have reached a point where it's time to exit the field . They have become burned out , their attitudes are nothing like they were when they first entered that field and now they have become somewhat of a liability on the floor that they're working . If there's one thing that I've heard pop up kind of between everything that you are saying throughout the time that you've been speaking , it's that you realize the importance of being able to stay grounded by having things outside of your law enforcement life that keep you grounded , that keep you balanced , that bring you back to a centered place . Because , as you know as I don't even have to ask you've seen it yourself in your field . You've seen law enforcement officers who had gotten so jaded , so bitter , become so angry that they just needed to find another profession , and what I hear you saying tells me that's something that hasn't happened with you . If anything , as your life has gone on and as the years of your law enforcement experience unfolded , you found yourself becoming more compassionate , more understanding and having more empathy , and probably more important than anything is that you realize the importance of acting on that empathy , as we kind of start to wind down here .

Jack Hopkins 40:23

If you were going to , you know you're at someone's door here . If you were going to , you know you're at someone's door . You've knocked on the door and they say , okay , look , tyler , you've got 60 seconds . Make your case . What's your one minute ? Talk to somebody at their front door .

Campaign for Sheriff Fundraising and Message

Tyler Kamp 40:40

Yeah , I'm going to be a sheriff that puts the needs of the community before the needs of the sheriff . I'm going to be the people's sheriff . I will ensure justice for everybody . I will make sure to keep politics out of the sheriff's office and I will be tough on crime but yet compassionate at the same time .

Jack Hopkins 40:58

And I think that any democracy-loving American can only want that . We don't want people who are tough on crime but have no compassion . We don't want people who are big on compassion but are not tough on crime . We want somebody who represents both of those and knows how to balance them and still get the job done . And that's the thing that's come through about you . I haven't heard you talk about law enforcement practices in singularity . They've always been attached to compassion , understanding and more empathy . I think that's critical , and you don't hear that very often these days . Tyler , how can people help you ? How can people ? First of all , how can people contact you ? How can they ? They find you and what do you need in these last weeks before the election ?

Tyler Kamp 42:02

yeah , uh , thank you , jack . If you go to my website , Kamp4 sheriff , Camp is with a K , a-m-p and it's spelled out Kamp4Sheriff . com . That's my website . You could also follow me on my socials Instagram , facebook and X . If you just type in Kamp4Sheriff , you'll find me quickly , definitely get the word out . It's important that we inform voters . To word out , it's important that we inform voters and I truly believe this we have . The winning message is to ensure justice for everybody and not to return to the days of Joe Arpaio , and that's a winning message .

Jack Hopkins 42:40

And lastly , no , I believe you . That's a winning message , if there ever was one .

Tyler Kamp 42:45

Yeah , and lastly , and maybe most importantly , is we always need funds to get that message out to people , because I think if people hear that message , it's hard to break through the big national races . Right , maricopa County is the epicenter for this election . It's the largest county within Arizona and it's hard to break through the presidential election that the Senate race . There are several congressional seats that are up for grabs that may determine the balance of Congress , but , like we discussed , your local races affect your day to day and we do not want Maricopa County to be known as the county of Joe Arpaio .

Jack Hopkins 43:21

We just don't , and so we need funds to get that message out to the folks and I want to emphasize to anybody watching or listening look this election year probably more than well I know it is more than any other election year of my life . I have donated to people in states where I'm not a resident . It's that critical . This is the most consequential election year perhaps in US history .

Jack Hopkins 44:02

We cannot afford to have officials , in any capacity , who are associated with the concepts , the beliefs , the practices of a Donald Trump or MAGA . We cannot , and to me that means we can't just look at the race or the races in our community . We have to look at other states . We have to look at other counties , other cities and say where is there a critical race going on ? Where is a MAGA or a Donald Trump influenced or a Joe Arpaio influenced candidate possibly in a position to be elected ? We have to help everybody in those races , doesn't matter what state you live in in my opinion . So I urge anybody watching or listening , whatever you can afford to do if it's $5 , then make it $5 . But donate something to this campaign of Tyler Kamp , who's running for sheriff of Maricopa County in Arizona . Tyler , any last words before we go .

Tyler Kamp 45:12

I appreciate you spending the time with me , jack , and just getting to know me and allowing me to speak to your audience . I'm grateful and I'm committed to doing the best job I can .

Jack Hopkins 45:21

And , having talked to you now for about 40 minutes , I sincerely feel that , coming from you , there's nothing flashy about you . You don't make bold and outrageous claims that would be impossible to back up . Everything about you seems even , keeled and balanced , and that's what I like about you . You're not somebody who is going to operate in the extremes , on either end of the spectrum . You are going to operate in a fair , legitimate and lawful way and in a way that has the best chance of benefiting your county , and I wish you the best of luck in this race , tyler thank you jack I'll be talking to you soon okay , bye-bye , bye-bye , we'll

Speaker 1 46:15

see you next time .